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Never Just Say No

by   |  May 14th, 2010
Customer Service, First Impressions, Marketing


 

 
 
 

Never just say no. There’s almost always a better answer, for both of you.


I monitor some keywords on twitter via some Hootsuite columns. One of them is “insurance” and I have a geo-tag with it to grab tweets mentioning “insurance” within a 40 mile radius of Corvallis.


Once every week or two I catch someone asking a question or mentioning they’re getting quotes, and I respond. Earlier this week was just such an opportunity.


Ty Hildebrand, a Realtor in Salem, mentioned he was looking for homeowner’s insurance, so of course I responded. Something to the effect of, “If you’d like us to get you a quote, I’d love to help”. Much to my happiness, Ty replied with his cell phone number.


Turns out, Ty has a property that is currently vacant- very difficult to insure, and expensive. I took my time to explain to him the what’s and why’s, but ultimately told him I couldn’t help.


About five minutes after I hung up with him, I thought to myself. What in the world did I do? Here this guy was looking for help, and in the end, I did nothing for him. Lame, if you ask me.


So I quickly called a broker buddy of mine who’s able to do oddball stuff and asked if he could do vacant properties. He said he could, so I asked how much (ballpark), and what options there are for payment. Then I called Ty back.


“Hey Ty, I can’t believe I finished my last call without giving you some actual help. I have a guy I trust that can write your property for you. You can pay for 3, 6 or 9 months of coverage, which will help, because it’s kind of spendy. Expect it to be about 3x the cost of a normal homeowners policy, annualized. My friend is expecting your call. Let me know if I can ever help you with something else. Cheers.”


What impression would Ty have had of me if I hadn’t made that second call?

Chris Nordyke

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Reader comments (7)

 

Great piece of advice Chris.

Now the trick is how to train staff to get beyond transactional service and start building relationships by truly helping customers.

Jim


Jim Ordway | May 15, 2010

Chris, You and I were talking about this yesterday regarding other good business policies toward customers. So many of these principles go beyond good business sense and are just simply kind things to do. Beyond helping Ty out you just established a relationship of trust. Who knows where that will go, but I bet it will be good for both of you.

And Jim, you are spot on. We need to get employees off a script of “no” and get them to a place where they have the freedom to be creative in their relationships with customers.


John | May 15, 2010

Nice job Chris, this is something that comes up periodically for my customers too. I may have them call you. Keep your friend’s number handy.


Dava Behrens | May 15, 2010

Kudos to you Chris for taking the initiative to help someone out when it appeared there was no short-term benefit to you. Word-of-mouth must be extremely important in your industry; probably the most effective form of marketing you can do?

Even so, what strikes me as the important part of this post (or the part that got me thinking) is WHY?

Your quote:
“About five minutes after I hung up with him, I thought to myself. What in the world did I do? Here this guy was looking for help, and in the end, I did nothing for him. Lame, if you ask me.”

WHY did it occur to you that you should help him? Was it years of training, or reading, or research into customer service? Was it a thought that he might refer some business to you?

I don’t think it was any of that. I believe people are internally wired (mostly through how they’re raised) to be servants first and let the details take care of themselves.

As you surely know, Zappos and many other service-first organizations operate under that same premise. Training and re-training is important, but hiring the right people is paramount to their culture and continued success.

So, while John and Jim (me too) are in agreement about getting employees off the script, hiring the right people that instinctively know what to do when they get off the script seems much more important.


Tim Sanchez | May 15, 2010

Welcome to the MAC blog, Chris! And thanks for this great example of putting service before sales. The latter will come in due time.


Jeff Jimerson | May 16, 2010

Although I work with a non-profit rather than a for profit business, I’ve told our staff, volunteer and paid, that we don’t say “no” when someone calls for help. It may not be something we do, but the least we can do is find a referral and sometimes if we chat longer, we find out another need we can help with. I agree that it is an “internal wiring” but it is also something people can learn or at least learn to do better.


Wilma Van Schelven | May 17, 2010

Thanks Chris for pointing out a sales skill not often taught: the relevant referral. Since it doesn’t end with the close, you have be relationship focused to see the value. And the value is that it ALWAYS comes back.

It also requires cultivating your network and knowing your competition. You have to know the people that will serve your clients needs when you can’t.


Matt Riopelle | May 18, 2010
 


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